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Java is a general purpose language wrought with boilerplate, but I think you and I agree on that. It's definitely more in the PHP and Ruby space. You can build web sites with each of those in the list, but CFML was the first in Rapid Application Development. "It's a server side technology that competes with Ruby, PHP, java. My point is that not only is CFML a full-fledged language, it's on par with every other mainstream language. And to be clear, most of the items on my list above aren't even required to be a "language". You'd be hard pressed to find a common structure, pattern, or expression that is not represented clearly in CFML.

  • data structures (indexed and associative arrays).
  • fancy operators (ternary, "elvis", etc).
  • classical object oriented patterns (before PHP, mind you).
  • all the typical flow control and decision tree structures.
  • You may not care for its syntax, operators, keywords, or structure, but the CFML is absolutely a language. More later on why that differentiation is important. ColdFusion is actually a trade mark currently owned by Adobe that refers to their application server that runs your CFML code. (Fun fact, it used to be Cold Fusion with a space, just like the theoretical low energy nuclear reaction.) I know, it's kind of silly but that bugs us as it's easy to spot someone who's not familiar with the product. It's actually ColdFusion, with a capital "F". You seem like a pretty level-headed chap and I appreciate the work you do for programmers in general, even if it is for PHP :) Nonetheless, you asked and I think it's a good opportunity to continue the discussion so the next time you're asked about ColdFusion, you can come at it from a 2015 viewpoint (even if you still don't care for it). Sorry for taking some of that out on you. If you haven't noticed, I really like CFML and I unfortunately see a massive amount of misinformation, or just plain outdated information about CF and it bugs me. I may have typed that initial comment in a frustrated frame of mind. I'll preface this by saying, Stefan- I do apologize if I came off as a bit of a jerk on YouTube. Stefan asked me to clarify my comment that " Your video was just plain misinformed " which was going to take more than 140 characters so I thought I would write up a post to elaborate on the details. I commented on the video in a bit of frustration which led to a good discussion on Twitter. Well, last night will trawling YouTube for audio clips of Adobe employees who have worked with ColdFusion for my " CF Sound Board " that I'm building into my CFClient mobile app that silly video kept coming up in the results.

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    None the less, I watched it a while back and disagreed fundamentally with many of the basis of his discussion but I just ignored the video. Update: Stefan has posted a new video in response.While I've recorded a number of screencasts and webinars that are posted online, they're all on Vimeo or Adobe Connect so alas I'm not contributing to that specific site. Part of that is a testament to the pathetically small amount of actual CFML content on YouTube.

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    I've seen the video before come up in YouTube searches. So this blog is a bit of a spill over from a Twitter conversation I had today with Stefan Mischook, a PHP programmer and maker of all sorts of training videos at and A few years ago, Stefan uploaded a video blog to YouTube titled " Should you learn Coldfusion?" (sic) where he presented a not-so-glowing review of ColdFusion through the lens of circa 2003.











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